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Post by Sparkle on Oct 20, 2005 21:25:29 GMT -5
And of course we can still SIN, we can still chose to disobey God, and it is only permissable if we repent. So if you think about it of course we can still SIN
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Post by jadyn on Oct 22, 2005 22:03:45 GMT -5
but if God says in His Word that all things are permissible, then how can you disobey him?
or is the New Testament not God's WOrd?
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Post by redemption on Oct 23, 2005 0:50:35 GMT -5
He says we are forgiven for them NOT that they r permisssible or else ....
WARNING THIS PART IS RATED R
ok we would be like drunk with abunch of prostitutes becauses its permissable *aka permission has been given* But lets go to the old testiment. Thou shall not comit adultery.
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Post by jadyn on Oct 23, 2005 20:40:59 GMT -5
lets take second COrinthians "All things are permissible to me"
and Romans "there fore we are no longer under the Law"
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Post by redemption on Oct 24, 2005 4:13:56 GMT -5
Under the law.....In O.T. times people had to live by the law and punishments for disobediance were VERY harsh *see adultrus women for example*. Imo they are no longer under the law as in the punishment for sin *we dont stone our own...well litteraly at least* and we wont go to hell even if we go on a mass mudering spree
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Post by jadyn on Oct 24, 2005 21:38:29 GMT -5
so then....is it still wrong if it doesnt need puishment? isnt that the whole purpose of punishment, to show us that we are wrong and to try and make sure that we dont do w/e it was again?
and the better question: if Christians still DO recieve punishment, do they recieve rewards as well? Will some people's stay in Heaven/New Creation be better than that of others?
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Post by redemption on Oct 25, 2005 21:09:42 GMT -5
unknown but unlikely. christians are rewarded already b4 heaven.
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Post by jadyn on Oct 25, 2005 21:20:11 GMT -5
yes, but Paul talks about some being rewarded more than others.
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Post by redemption on Oct 26, 2005 4:39:54 GMT -5
Yeah on earth unless u can give me a refrance where he says heaven...
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Post by jadyn on Oct 26, 2005 21:43:19 GMT -5
1 Corinthians 3:12
12If any man builds on this foundation using gold, silver, costly stones, wood, hay or straw, 13his work will be shown for what it is, because the Day will bring it to light. It will be revealed with fire, and the fire will test the quality of each man's work. 14If what he has built survives, he will receive his reward. 15If it is burned up, he will suffer loss; he himself will be saved, but only as one escaping through the flames.
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Post by redemption on Oct 26, 2005 23:01:43 GMT -5
ahhh isee. thank you for the verse. Yes we will get rewards *at 1 of the judgement seats* in heaven. Crowns of the above said.
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Post by jadyn on Oct 27, 2005 14:18:16 GMT -5
not what Paul is saying there though.
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Post by redemption on Oct 27, 2005 19:39:49 GMT -5
"shown for what it is, because the Day will bring it to light"
the day=judgement seat. his reward is what he built his foundation on. so how isnt it what he is refering 2?
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Post by jadyn on Oct 27, 2005 21:51:16 GMT -5
no, He's the one who laid the foundation. yes it will be revealed at the judgement day. but there its talking about the works you did for the kingdom after you were saved. plural. the crowns were for being particularly good in a specific area.
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Post by redemptuon rocks on Oct 27, 2005 23:30:35 GMT -5
the lovly thing about the bible is i can read the same thing as u and get a totaly different understanding.
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